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Roswell Incident

1947-07-08 – 1947-07-09what this date marks is not recorded

1947 crash near Roswell, NM (officially a military balloon); later mythologized as an alien crash-retrieval and cited by later whistleblowers as the origin point of government secrecy.

In the UAP recordRuled into the unidentified-phenomena thread on 2 September 2026 from this entity's own name and role text, which contain: "crash-retriev", "roswell". An editorial classification of what thread this entity belongs to; it rests on no page and does not claim to. Neighbours were not used - see apply-subjects-2026-09-02.mjs for why.

11 of 25 connections resolve to a document you can open. 2 carry no citation at all. 1 was tested against a document we hold and deliberately not bound.

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Documents2 behind these connections3 more that name it

Also named in documents we hold

This entity's name appears in the 4 documents below. That is the entire claim. Nothing here is evidence for anything on this map, no connection rests on it, and it says nothing about what the document is about. It is a place to look next.

named in the title
named on a page we have read · p. 5
…Air Force efforts did not identify any indication that the "Roswell Incident" was any type of extraterrestrial event or that the Air For…
named on a page we have read · p. 1
…vised that this agency has no information on the so-called "Roswell incident." Further, on the general subject of Unidentified Flying Ob…
named on a page we have read · p. 2
…d the student that CIA has "no information on the so-called Roswell incident," that after "a thorough and diligent search on behalf of a…
named on a page we have read · p. 21
…: "The Report of the U.S. Air Force Research Regarding the 'Roswell Incident'" by Col Richard L. Weaver, and the "Synopsis of Balloon Re…

25 connections

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  • This map says
    announced the weather balloon explanation
    The document says
    Brigadier General Roger Ramey, Commander of the Eighth Air Force at Forth Worth, Texas, stated that upon examination the debris recovered by Marcel was determined to be a weather balloon.
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 12  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
    Caveat The report is here quoting the Roswell Daily Record of 9 July 1947, not a service record. It is a 1994 government document reporting a 1947 newspaper. That is still a better source than the event citation this link carried, but it is not a primary record of the announcement itself.
  • same document as the row above
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    rancher who discovered the debris
    The document says
    The additional story of the "harassed rancher" identified him as W.W. Brazel of Lincoln County, New Mexico. He claimed that he and his son, Vernon, found the material on June 14, 1947, when they "came upon a large area of bright wreckage made up of rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper, and sticks."
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 12  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
    Caveat THE DATE IN THE DOCUMENT IS JUNE 14, NOT JULY. That is what Brazel told the paper in 1947, and it is one of the reasons the date of the "Roswell incident" is disputed at all. The report notes elsewhere, at printed 16, that the date of the alleged incident is among the most confused claims in the literature.
  • same document as the row above
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    intelligence officer sent to recover it
    The document says
    The first story reported that the Intelligence Officer of the 509th Bomb Group, stationed at Roswell Army Air Field, Major Jesse A. Marcel, had recovered a "flying disc" from the range lands of an unidentified rancher in the vicinity of Roswell
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 12  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
  • same document as the row above
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    officer who helped recover the debris
    The document says
    one of the interviewees thought vital to obtain an official signed, sworn statement from was Sheridan Cavitt, Lt Col, USAF (Retired), who is the last living member of the three persons universally acknowledged to have recovered material from the Foster Ranch.
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 16  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
  • same document as the row above
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    co-authored the book that popularized the myth
    The document says
    two authors, William L. Moore and Charles Berlitz, also engaged in research which led them to publish a book, The Roswell Incident, in 1980.
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 13  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
  • same document as the row above
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    long alleged in UFO lore, and in the 2015 DeLonge-Podesta email, as the destination of Roswell crash debris
    The document says
    These locations include Fort Worth, Texas ... and always to Wright Field, now known as Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio. ... Most of the Roswell stories that contain the recovery of alien bodies also show them being shipped to Wright Field.
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 14  ·  read off the page footer
    Caveat THE DOCUMENT IS DESCRIBING THE ALLEGATION, NOT CONFIRMING IT. The relation says the destination is "long alleged", and this page is the Air Force confirming that it is indeed long alleged - "always to Wright Field" - inside a report whose whole purpose is to reject the allegation. It sources the existence of the claim and nothing else. It must never be read as the Air Force placing debris at Wright Field.
  • same document as the row above
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    the USAF-stated source of the Roswell debris (Mogul Flight No. 4, launched June 4, 1947)
    The document says
    It is very probable that this Top Secret project balloon train (Flight 4), made up of unclassified components, came to rest some miles northwest of Roswell, NM, became shredded in the surface winds, and was ultimately found by the rancher, Brazel, ten days later. ... a copy of a professional journal maintained at the time by A.P. Crary ... showed that Flight 4 was launched on June 4, 1947, but was not recovered by the NYU group.
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 27  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
    Caveat The relation is right to say "USAF-stated". The report states this as probability, not finding - "It is very probable" - and the reader should have that word.
  • same document as the row above
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    leading advocate for the claim that Mogul Flight No. 4 explains the Roswell debris
    The document says
    The material and a "black box," described by Cavitt, was, in Moore's scientific opinion, most probably from Flight 4, a "service flight" ...
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 27  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
  • the 1994-97 Air Force reinvestigation of the incident
    The Roswell Report: Case Closed
    printed p. iii  ·  PDF p. 5 checked against the page
  • This map says
    CIC agent who took part in recovering the debris
    The document says
    Cavitt is credited in all claims of having accompanied Major Marcel to the ranch to recover the debris, sometimes along with his Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC) subordinate, Lewis Rickett, who, like Marcel, is deceased.
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 24  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
    Caveat NOTE THE HEDGE, TWICE OVER. The document says "is credited in all claims of" - it is reporting what the literature says, not making the finding - and it says "sometimes" of Rickett's presence. The relation is supported as a report of the claim, not as a finding of fact.
  • same document as the row above
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    Fort Worth weather officer who identified the displayed debris as a balloon and RAWIN radar target, Jul 8 1947
    The document says
    Newton was a weather officer assigned to Fort Worth, who was on duty when the Roswell debris was sent there in July, 1947. ... "I told them that this was a balloon and a RAWIN target. . . ."
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 24  ·  read off the page footer
    rendered and read by eye — the grade this project quotes from
    Caveat THE DAY IS NOT IN THE DOCUMENT. It says "in July, 1947". July 8 is an inference from the date of the Ramey press conference; the report does not date Newton's identification. The day was removed.
  • Project Blue Book not bound, on purpose
    The claim we tested
    origin of secrecy narrative
    What the document actually says
    Roswell, for example, is not referred to in the official USAF investigation of UFOs reported in Project Bluebook or its predecessors, Project Sign and Project Grudge, which ran from 1948-1969.
    Report of Air Force Research Regarding the "Roswell Incident", 1994
    printed p. 13  ·  read off the page footer
    Why we refused it. THE ONLY PRIMARY THIS PROJECT HOLDS ON THIS PAIR SAYS THE CASE IS ABSENT FROM BLUE BOOK. Printed 11 records the same thing from the other direction: Congressman Schiff was told Roswell was part of Blue Book, asked the National Archives, and was told it was not. A link asserting Roswell as the origin of a Blue Book secrecy narrative cannot be bound to a document that says Blue Book never held the case. The link is left standing on its own citation, and this refusal is the note that the nearest primary cuts against it.
  • David Grusch names a source we do not hold
    referenced in claims
    Public commentary and testimony on the Grusch disclosures (2023)
  • Luis Elizondo names a source we do not hold
    claimed craft recovered
    Roswell case histories; Berlitz & Moore, The Roswell Incident (1980)
  • EG&G names a source we do not hold
    disputed book claims its engineers studied the debris
    Roswell case histories; Berlitz & Moore, The Roswell Incident (1980)
  • Majestic 12 (MJ-12) names a source we do not hold
    disputed 1984 documents link it to this event
    MJ-12 documents (widely regarded as disputed/forged); Stanton Friedman analysis
  • Arthur Exon names a source we do not hold
    stationed at Wright-Patterson when debris reportedly arrived
    Roswell case histories; Berlitz & Moore, The Roswell Incident (1980)
  • Trinity Test names a source we do not hold
    both origin-era New Mexico nuclear/UAP incidents
    Vallee & Harris, Trinity: The Best-Kept Secret (2021)
  • Philip Corso names a source we do not hold
    claimed in 1997 book the crash was real
    Roswell case histories; Berlitz & Moore, The Roswell Incident (1980)
  • William N. McCasland names a source we do not hold
    the DeLonge-Podesta email claims Roswell debris went to the Wright-Patterson lab McCasland ran (DeLonge's assertion, not established)
    WikiLeaks Podesta emails, #3099 (Tom DeLonge to John Podesta, 2015)
  • Alfred O'Donnell names a source we do not hold
    source of the disputed Soviet-child-experiment Roswell claim; per Barnes he later said he invented it
    TD Barnes interview (Danny Jones podcast, 2026); Annie Jacobson, Area 51 (2011)
  • Annie Jacobson names a source we do not hold
    her 2011 book claims Roswell was a Soviet craft carrying surgically-altered children (widely disputed)
    Annie Jacobson, Area 51 (2011)
  • H. C. Cross names a source we do not hold
    alleged by researcher Anthony Bragalia to have studied Roswell memory metal at Battelle
    Bragalia, Roswell/Battelle/Memory Metal (2009-2010)
  • Harry Truman nothing behind it
    his administration handled the immediate aftermath
  • Laurance Rockefeller nothing behind it
    treated it as the key test case for his disclosure push

1 correction to this record

Generated from the record, not written by hand. Every change keeps what the map used to say, because a correction nobody can see is indistinguishable from never having been wrong.

Roswell Incident → Irving Newton
Fort Worth weather officer who identified the displayed debris as a balloon and RAWIN radar target, Jul 8 1947
Fort Worth weather officer who identified the displayed debris as a balloon and RAWIN radar target, July 1947
THE DAY IS NOT IN THE DOCUMENT. It says "in July, 1947". July 8 is an inference from the date of the Ramey press conference; the report does not date Newton's identification. The day was removed.

Notes on this record

The incident

The 1947 recovery near Roswell, New Mexico.